tammuz_trinityThe Trinity

First and foremost, the word "trinity" is not found in the Scriptures. The doctrine itself is not found in Scriptures pertaining to our Heavenly Father and His Son. It is, however, deeply found in world history and "traditionally" in many religions (including christianity). The purpose of this site is not to delve too much into origins, but to stick primarily with the Scriptures. Since it can be useful to know where things originate, especially to assist in adhering to Scripture (especially such as Deuteronomy 12:30-31), here are two links which are excellent in providing a history of the trinity doctrine, #1 and #2. You can also just do a search for "origin of the trinity doctrine."

The Messiah Yahushua tells us that it is a matter of ETERNAL LIFE that we know and recognize the Father, whose name is Yahuweh, as the "Only True Elohim [G-d]" and Yahushua the Messiah as the One He, the Father, sent (John 17:3; 20:17). But, shortly after the death of the apostles and their immediate followers (just as the apostle Paul feared) grievous wolves crept in among the flock, bringing in damnable doctrines, and turned many away from the faith (Acts 20:29-31).

If it is truth you are looking for, I believe our Heavenly Father sent you here in order to assist you in finding it. Although the 3-in-1 Elohim (G-d), or trinity, is never mentioned in the Scriptures, there are only a few passages that are oftentimes used to promote such a doctrine, which we will go into. If you have any question, comments, something you disagree with and so forth, contact us and someone will be glad to help explain in more detail on a more personal level.

Remember, the only Scriptures that existed when Messiah walked the earth was the Tanakh (the so-called "Old Covenant" or "Testament")--that is what our Messiah and His disciples walked, talked and taught! Therefore, the reality is if there is no "trinity" or "duality" or "oneness" in the Tanakh, it has no place in the so-called New Covenant either! However, since people have distorted His truths and twisted those Scriptures, we will cover some verses used to supposedly "prove" this "new" (but "false") belief structure. This article may be quite lengthy. However, you may read it in its entirety or click on one of the verses which are covered, as follows:

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1 John 5:7: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one (King James Version, "KJV").

In this is probably the most celebrated, so-called trinitarian passage, in the entire Bible. If you are following along in your bibles, and not reading from a King James Version or a Catholic version, you’re probably puzzled as to why this passage, as quoted above, IS NOT found in your Bibles. The reason is because this passage with the additional words, "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one," are NOT found in ANY OTHER translation of the bible. To illustrate on this particular verse, following are many other translations which leave out "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one":

  • New American Standard ("NASV");
  • New International Version ("NIV");
  • Revised Standard Version ("RSV");
  • New Revised Standard Version ("NRSV");
  • New King James Version ("NKJ");
  • Modern King James Version ("MKJV") (NOTE: Although the MKJV left the phrase in the text, they put it in initialized letters to show that it was added);
  • Living Bible ("LB");
  • New Century Version ("NC");
  • American Standard Version ("ASV");
  • Bible in Basic English ("BBE");
  • Contemporary English Version ("CEV");
  • International Standard Version ("ISV");
  • Literal translation of the Bible ("LITV")
  • And of course the list can go on and on.

The question should be, "Why do just about all translations, other then the KJV and Catholic Version leave out 'bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost and these three are one’ from verse 7 of 1 John?" The reason it is omitted in just about every other translation is due to the fact that it is NOT found in any Greek Manuscript, earlier then the 15th Century. That means this passage, 1 John 5:7, with the words, "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one," are not contained in any Manuscript until approximately 1,400 years after the death of the Apostle John, who, of course, wrote the epistle of 1 John!

The fact that these added words to the Epistle of 1 John, were NOT written by the Apostle John, is something that almost, if not all, Biblical Scholars agree on because there is not a single Greek Manuscript in existence with this passage before the 15th Century. We have never heard of anyone that would argue the fact, that since the Apostle John who had been dead for almost 1,400 years prior to these words being ADDED to his text, that John could have somehow have written them. Below are some comments by Biblical Scholars:

  • The Bible Scholar, Dr. C. I. Scofield, of the renown Scofield Reference Bible, adds this footnote to 1 John 5:7: "It is generally agreed that this verse has no ms. [manuscript] authority and has been inserted." "...no manuscript authority" means that it is NOT supported by ANY manuscript! It wasn't until the 15th century that this verse was inserted into the text.
  • Dr. Edgar J. Goodspeed, the Bible translator, comments on 1 Jn 5:7: "This verse ...does not appear in any Greek manuscript of 1 John before the fifteenth century, when one cursive has it; one from the sixteenth also contains the reading. These are the only Greek manuscripts of the New Testament in which it has ever been found. But it occurs in no ancient Greek manuscript or Greek Christian writer or in any of the oriental versions...It is universally discredited by Greek scholars and editors of the Greek text of the New Testament."
  • Regarding this addition to 1 John, the textual critic F. H. A. Scrivener wrote: "We need not hesitate to declare our conviction that the disputed words were not written by St. John: that they were originally brought into Latin copies in Africa from the margin, where they had been placed as a pious and orthodox gloss on ver. 8: that from the Latin they crept into two or three late Greek codices, and thence in the printed Greek text, a place to which they had no rightful claim."
  • The Catholic Church, who includes this passage in the text of their various translations, readily admits that this verse was added many years later. The following was taken from a Catholic publication entitled "The "Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma":

    The Tri-personality and the unity of essence in G-d is most perfectly expressed in the so-called Comma Ioanneum 1 John 5:7 el seq.: "And they are Three who give testimony (in Heaven; the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost. And these Three are one. And there are three that give testimony on earth.)" The genuineness of the words in parenthesizes, however, is subject to the gravest doubts as they are missing in all the Greek biblical manuscripts up to the 15 century, in all the Oriental translations, also in the oldest and best Vulgate manuscripts, and are not used by the Greek and Latin Fathers in the great Trinitarian controversies of the 4th and 5th centuries. The passage is first found in the writings of the a Spanish heretic Priscillian though in a heretical form. As they have been adopted in the official Vulgate edition, and have been used by the Church for centuries, they may be regarded as an expression of the Church's teaching. Further, they enjoy a status as a testimony of Tradition. Even if the passage be not a genuine constituent part of the Vulgate, it is nevertheless authentic, that is free from error dogmatically.
    So we see that the Catholic church readily admits that the celebrated phrase "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost" was not written by the apostle John. I imagine if you happen to be a Catholic and hold to the idea that tradition has as much authority as the written Word then we suppose it wouldn't matter to you that the apostle John had nothing to do with these additional words being added.

We see than that without question this celebrated passage, found only in the King James Version and the Catholic Versions, was not written by the Apostle John, thus all other translations, rightfully so, did not include it in their translation.

The conclusion should be that this verse, erroneously used to somehow "prove" this 3-in-1 deity, should not even be there and thus of no significance! Only the truth can set us free, no one has ever been set free by believing a lie. And the truth is, the Father, Yahweh, is the Only True Elohim [G-d]. And, as the Savior tells us, is a matter of Eternal Life (John 17:3

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John 10:30  I and my Father are one.

Before we take a look at how the Savior meant for us to understand how He and the Father are one, there is something that needs to be pointed out.

How many beings or persons does it take to make up a triune god, or "trinity"? Of course, the answer is "3." How many persons, or beings does the Savior tells "are one"? The answer is, I and My Father are one. If anything, the Messiah dis-proved the idea of a "triune" or "3-in-1 g-d" with His statement. If Yahushua was part of a triune deity, He would have said, "I and the Father and the Holy Spirit are one." But of course neither He, or anyone else in the Bible, ever said such a thing.

Even though Yahushua made it clear on numerous occasions while on earth, and afterwards, that His Father, Yahuweh, is the Only True Elohim (John 17:3; 20:17; Matthew 27:46; 1 Corinthians 8:6; 1 Timothy 2:5; Revelation 3:2, 12, etc.) so many refuse believe it. This is one of the passages used in an attempt to deny the words of the Savior. So with a desire to find "truth" rather than continue on in a "tradition," let's look at it. I think it will become extremely obvious in this article that the Messiah is in no way trying to make Himself out to be part of a 2-in-1, or 3-in-1 deity, in which it is said He is the second part of.

If the Messiah was not trying to imply that he and his Father "are one" in the sense of them both being part of a "godhead," then what did He mean by saying that he and his Father are "one"? Turn, if you would, to John 17 and we're going to read verses 3, 11, and 21-23. (You might want to mark these passages in your Bible):

John 17:3, 11, 21-25: This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true Elohim, and Yahushua Messiah whom You have sent. [11] I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are. [21-23] ...that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me. The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one; I in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that You sent Me, and loved them, even as You have loved Me. Father, I desire that they also, whom You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. righteous Father, although the world has not known You, yet I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me;

Yahushua starts his prayer to His Heavenly Father by making it clear to all those who will hear him, that He IS NOT the Only True Elohim (G-d), but rather His Father, Yahuweh is. And He, Yahushua the Messiah, is the one whom the Only True Elohim, Yahuweh, has sent. To know and believe this, according to the Savior, is Eternal Life. This is so very clear, yet most do not want to see it!

In what sense are we to be "one" even as the Yahuweh, the Father, and Yahushua, the Messiah, are "one," as our Messiah says in verse 11? We will take a look at the answer in a moment. But, look at verses 21-25. There is so much that the Savior said here that we can discuss in more detail, such as the fact that the "glory" which the Father gave to the Messiah, He gave that "glory" to His disciples, and, of course, this is NOT the glory that was His because He was part of a trinity, or co-equal with the Father, who He just got through telling His disciples was the "Only True Elohim (G-d)," in verse 3. If it was such a "glory," making the Messiah equal with the Father, than I'm sure there are those that would come up with all kinds of wild ideas. (An example would be the Mormons who use this very passage to say "they" are all going to be "gods" some day, ruling over their own planets. I hope that sounds as bizarre to you as it does to me.) That is exactly how so many people, through their misunderstanding of a passage, develop such unscriptural concepts. The "trinity" is another one of the concepts that developed through people's misunderstanding of certain passages. The fact is, that the "glory" which the Father gave to the Son, the Son gave to His disciples. If you would like to discuss "His Glory" in more detail, contact us and we can do so; however, we want to focus on the fact that the disciple are to be "one, just as the Father and Son are one."

Now if we can understand in what sense the Father, Yahuweh, and His Son, Yahushua, and are one, it should become clear in what sense we, the disciples, are to be one, with them.

    1. We are to be one with Yahushua and the Father, in doctrine, or teaching.

      2 John 1:9: Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Messiah does not have Elohim; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son,
      Of course, one of the primary teachings of the Messiah is that His Father is His Elohim (G-d), (John 20:17; Revelation 3:2, 12) and His Father is the "Only True Elohim," (John 17:3). For anyone to go beyond this and say that the Only True Elohim is actually made up of a 2-in-1 (or a 3-in-1 deity, known as a trinity, in which the Savior is the second part of) is not abiding in the teaching of the Messiah, and does not have Elohim just as the apostle John stated above. For NEVER does the Savior or anyone else in the bible ever ask us to believe that the Almighty is anyone other than the Heavenly Father, Yahuweh.

      1 Corinthians 1:3, 10: Grace to you and peace from Elohim our Father and the Master Yahushua the Messiah,...Now I exhort you, brethren, by the name of our Master Yahushua the Messiah, that you all agree, and there be no divisions among you, but you be made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment.
      Obviously one of the things that the Corinthians agreed on, was that the Elohim mentioned here, or anywhere else in the bible, was not a trinity.

    2. We are to be forgiving towards one another as Yahuweh is towards us.

      Matthew 6:14-15: For if you forgive men for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if do not forgive men, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions."
      Ephesians 4:32: And be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as Elohim in Messiah also has forgiven you.
    3. We, believers, should be one, in our love for one another.

      John 17:23: I in them, and Thou in Me. that they may be perfected in unity, that the world may know that Thou didst send Me, and didst love them, even as Thou didst love Me.
      John 13:34: A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
    4. We should walk even as He [the Savior] walked," 1 John 2:6, i.e., with the same attitude that He had, that "not our will be done, but Yahuweh's will be done."

      Matthew 26:39: My Father if it be possible let this cup pass from me, yet not my will but your will be done.
      John 7:17: If any man is willing to do His will, he shall know of the teaching, whether it is of Elohim, OR whether I speak from Myself.

In other words, "one in unity or purpose.

In conclusion, the Savior in John 10:30, COULD NOT be implying that He and His Father are one in the sense that they make up a the 3-in-1 deity of the trinity, for they are only two, not three AND in whatever way the Savior and His Father are one, He clearly tells us - we are to be one "just as they are one" - John 17:11, 22.

The Messiah Yahushua's prayer to the Heavenly Father did not go unanswered. His followers are one, in the manner described above, "just as" He and the Father are one. For we are commanded to "walk even as the Savior walked" (1 John 2:6).

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John 10:34: I said you are gods.

When the Savior was being accused of blasphemy by the Pharisees, for saying that He and his Father are one, He responded by saying,

John 10:34-35: Has it not been written in your Law, "I said you are elohim [g-ds]"? If He, Yahuweh, called them elohime [g-ds], to whom the word of Elohim came and the Scripture cannot be broken [meaning, this cannot be denied], do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, "You are blaspheming" because I said, "I am the Son of God"?

(The word translated "god" or "gods" throughout the Gospels and Epistles is the Greek word "theos," and in the Hebrew it is the word "elohim.")

The Messiah was quoting from Psalm 82, where the Heavenly Father, Yahuweh, is referring to the judges of Israel (human men) as elohim (g-ds) and at the same time calling them "His children."

Psalm 82:6: I said you are elohim [g-ds], and all of you are sons of the Most High. This verse really has no bearing on a 3-in-1 or 2-in-1 doctrine.

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Matthew 28:19-20, Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.

Baptism is another topic altogether which is what Messiah is speaking of here. We are told several times to "repent and be baptized"; however, the topic we are discussing is the trinity. People use this verse as a "proof" text despite it merely being "instructions." When people are baptized within many churches, the minister says, "I baptize you in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit," but did he? The reality is when you are baptized properly (and for the right reasons--another topic), in the NAME of Yahushua ("Yahuweh's Salvation" or "Salvation of Yahuweh"), you ARE being baptized in the Father's Name (Yahweh) and the Son's Name. See Acts 2:38; Acts 8:16; 19:5, along with others to see that the apostles were baptizing in the Name of the Messiah, not in some "trinitarian" formula. But, bottomline is that this verse has nothing to do with a 3-in-1 or 2-in-1 deity, it deals with baptism.

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2 Corinthians 13:14: The grace of the Master Yahshua Messiah, and the love of Yahweh, and the fellowship of the Kodesh Spirit, be with you all.

Again, three items mentioned but not in reference to any 3-in-1 or 2-in-1 deity. If you, your father and a wheelbarrow go into the words to chop down a tree, is that a “trinity” or a 3-in-1, a 2-in-1—it is the same here and just as ridiculous unless you have been deceived all your life into looking at it that way.

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1 Timothy 3:16: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: G-d was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. ("KJV")

G-d was added to this scripture in the King James Version, no doubt to support the trinitarian belief they advocated (and still advocate today). Most other versions have correctly changed it to "He" (referring to our Messiah). The phrase "in the flesh" merely means of natural/physical origin as opposed to of spiritural origin. In other words, "born of natural origin" APART from divine influence.

It is quite interesting that the very next verse (1 Timothy 4:1) says: Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

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John 8:58: Yahshua said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.'

John 8:58, along with a handful of other passages (Genesis 1:26; Micah 5:2; John 1:1; John 10:30, and a few others), is oftentimes used in an attempt to support the doctrine of a “duality” (a “2-in-1” god) or the “trinity” (the 3-in-1 god), believed on by many Christians and Messianic Jews today. In both scenarios, the Savior is said to be either the Almighty or equal with the Almighty Heavenly Father, Yahuweh. These beliefs, in fact, are not only blasphemous but will cost those who believe such their salvation. Some translations go as far as to put the words, “I am” in all capitals, in an attempt to mislead the reader into believing this is the same expression used by the Almighty in Exodus 3:14, which it is not.

Exodus 3:14: Elohim said to Moses, ‘I AM WHO I AM’; and He said, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'"

Although it’s been shown (through the evidence presented in the Dead Sea Scrolls) that the common language of the Jews in Yahushua’s day was Hebrew and Aramaic (Aramaic being a dialect of Hebrew), the earliest existing manuscripts of the so-called New Testament available to us today are primarily written in the Greek language (and, of course, some were written in Latin).

The Savior did not use the same words that the Heavenly Father used in Exodus 3:14. We will first take a look at the words used by the Messiah in John 8:58 in both the English and Greek, using a Greek Interlinear. Then we will look at those words that are used by the Almighty in Exodus 3:14 as they are written in the oldest manuscript of the Tanakh available to us today (the *Septuagint [also Greek]). After looking at each, we will compare the two and you will see they simply are not the same words.

Let me make it clear that you DO NOT have to know a word of Greek to be able to compare the two. All that is necessary is for you to be able to see with your eyes the difference in the words in question.

John 8:58: (English) Yahushua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 8:58: (Greek) ειπεν αυτοις ο ιησους αμην αμην λεγω υμιν πριν αβρααμ γενεσθαι εγω ειμι (“ego eimi”)

The words “I am” used in verse 58 are the Greek words, “εγω ειμι” which are pronounced “ego eimi.” The words “ego eimi,” translated “I am,” was a very common term found throughout the so-called New Testament. These same exact words, “ego eimi” ("I am"), were used by John the Baptist, the Centurion, the Apostle Peter, the angel Gabriel, and others. And, needless to say, no ever found it offensive in the dozens of times they were used, including John 8:58, which will become obvious as we take a look at it.

The term “ego eimi,” or “I am,” was used by the Messiah, Yahushua, approximately 22 times before John 8:58. It was used 8 times in John chapter 8 alone and approximately 23 times after that. John 8:58 was the only time anyone tried stoning him because of his using that term! If these same words were used by so many others, why did they try to stone the Messiah in John 8:59? That is a good question and one you can email us if you would like to discuss as I do not want to get off the topic of the “trinity” here. Just remember and consider all the times before verse 58 that the Savior used the exact same term “ego eimi” and never was there ever any reaction to it.

In John chapter 8 alone, before verse 58 the Messiah used "I am" (“ego eimi”) 4 times and no one ever thought anything of it:

  1. John 8:12: Then spoke Yahushua again unto them, saying, I am (“ego eimi”) the light of the world:…
  2. John 8:18: I am (“ego eimi”) one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me…
  3. John 8:24: …for if you believe not that I am (“ego eimi”), you shall die in your sins.
  4. John 8:28: …then shall you know that I am (“ego eimi”), and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father has taught me, I speak these things.

And just a few of many times the term "I am" (“ego eimi”) was used by others.

  • John the Baptist, Who do you think that I am?, Acts 13:25;
  • John, I am not the Messiah, John 1:20;
  • The Blind man, He kept saying, ‘I am,’ John 9:9;
  • By a centurion, I am a man under authority, Matthew 8:9;
  • A land owner, because I am good?, Matthew 20:15;
  • The Almighty, I am the Elohim of Abraham, Matthew 22:32 (from Exodus 3:6); and many more.

If this phrase “ego eimi” (“I am”) is used dozens of times by so many different people, then again, how can anyone say (or attempt to say) that the Messiah is using it in John 8:58 to claim to be the Almighty Yahuweh (or even of equal authority with the Almighty, either of which would be in direct opposition to verses such as John 5:19, 30; Acts 1:7; and many more)?

Here is the English translation of Exodus 3:14, as found in the *Septuagint:

And Elohim spoke to Moses, saying, I am THE BEING; and He said, Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: THE BEING has sent me to you.

And the same passage in the Greek of the Septuagint:

καὶ εἶπεν ὁ θεὸς πρὸς Μωυσῆν εγω ειμι (“ego eimi”) ὁ ὤν· (“ho on”) καὶ εἶπεν Οὕτως ἐρεῖς τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ Ὁ ὢν (ho on) ἀπέσταλκέν με πρὸς ὑμᾶς

The words in blue, "THE BEING," used in the English translation of the Septuagint, are the Greek words ὁ ὤν·, pronounced "ho on," which are the same words translated "I AM" (in all caps) in many English translations today. These words “ho on” are never used by the Savior, or anyone else except Almighty, Yahuweh.

The words in red, "I am," are the Greek words “ego eimi” which are the exact same words used by the Messiah in John 8:58, and dozens of other individuals throughout the so-called New Testament.

It is VERY important to realize, the words “ὁ ὤν” (“ho on”) which are translated “I AM” by the Christian translators, and translated “THE BEING” in the Septuagint, are two completely different words than the words translated “I am” in John 8:58. The words “ho on” are never used by Yahushua or anyone else, never, not one time. They are only used by the Almighty Yahuweh himself.

Once again here is a comparison of John 8:58, in English and Greek. The words in “red' are the words used by the Messiah and many others throughout the bible. The words in “blue” are the words used exclusively by the Almighty:

  • Yahushua said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am (“ego eimi”).
  • ειπεν αυτοις ο ιησους αμην αμην λεγω υμιν πριν αβρααμ γενεσθαι εγω ειμι (“ego eimi”)

And here is Exodus 3:14, as found in the Septuagint translation, in English and Greek:THE

  • And Elohim spoke to Moses, saying, I am (“ego eimi”) THE BEING (“ho on”); and He said, Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: THE BEING (“ho on”) has sent me to you."
  • καὶ εἶπεν ὁ θεὸς πρὸς Μωυσῆν εγω ειμι (“ego eimi”) ὁ ὤν· (“ho on”) καὶ εἶπεν Οὕτως ἐρεῖς τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ Ὁ ὢν (ho on”) ἀπέσταλκέν με πρὸς ὑμᾶς

And as you can see the words ‘“ego eimi”,’ a very common term used dozens of times throughout the bible, are simply used to introduce the “ho on” ("THE BEING").

We looked at some examples above of the Messiah and others using the words εγω ειμι (“ego eimi”) but for the sake of clarity I am going to state some of them again here. I would like you to see how the words εγω ειμι (“ego eimi”) are NEVER used as a title but rather they are used to introduce the subject or object being spoken of:

  • Exodus 3:14: I am (“ego eimi”) THE BEING (Septuagint);
  • Matthew 8:9: For I am (“ego eimi”) a man under authority;
  • Matthew 20:15: because I am (“ego eimi”) good?;
  • Matthew 22:32: I am (“ego eimi”) the Elohim of Abraham;
  • Matthew 24:5: I am (“ego eimi”) Messiah;
  • Luke 1:18: I am (“ego eimi”) an old man; and many more could be shown.

And here are the number of times the words "ho on" used by the Almighty in Exodus 3:14 are used by others: "NEVER," not even once! The Messiah did not use the term “ho on,” translated “THE BEING,” not in John 8:58 or anywhere else.

To summarize: The words '“ego eimi”' translated "I am" in John 8:58, used by the Messiah Yahushua, are used dozens of times by many individuals throughout the so-called New Testament. The words “ho on” in Exodus 3:14, which are translated "I AM" by the Christian translators ("THE BEING" in the Septuagint), are never used by the Messiah or anyone else except the Almighty Yahuweh alone. Regardless of what the verse means, we should realize now it is NOT the Messiah claiming equality with His Father one bit! Again, for more information, contact us.

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*The “Septuagint” is a Greek translation of the Hebrew Tanakh (the so-called “Old” Testament). It was translated from the Hebrew to the Greek sometime between the years 250 BCE to 285 BCE, by 72 Hebrew/Greek scholars. It is the oldest known copy of the books from Genesis to Malachi known to us to date. It was also used by the Greek-speaking, first century assemblies and by the apostles in reaching the converts who only understood Greek.

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This concludes the verses most often used to supposedly "prove" the "duality" (2-in-1), the "trinity" (3-in-1) and the "oneness" doctrines, all of which are in direct violation of Scripture. If there are any discrepancies or errors, please let us know and we will discuss them with you. Perhaps you will show us something we missed--perhaps you will see something YOU missed! If there is a verse we missed that you would like to point out, again, contact us.

May our Heavenly Father guide, strengthen and protect all those who seek Him!